At my Federal job, nearly 1 in 6 coworkers suffered an injury from their vaccine. Tinnitus, blood clots, numb hands , severe joint pain, anaphylaxis, mast cell activation syndrome, myocarditis etc. I have spoken to over 2 dozen vaccine injured people and not one of them knew what VAERS is, and not one of them had their doctor mention it to them. And that is how you get data that mRNA vaccines are safe. You simply don’t report adverse events.
Val, if 1 in 6 close associates suffered harm, you might be seeing a “cluster”. They happen. But other people might know 0 associates out of a larger pool of acquaintances who suffered harm. I have had 2 doses and 4 boosters of Moderna and Pfizer and had a mild COVID infection once when the Omega variant was first circulating. I have tinnitus but had it before the pandemic too. I don’t know anyone who has had serious symptoms caused by being vaxxed. If people with my anecdotal experience are far more numerous than people with yours, what does that say? And I participated in VAERS fwiw.
Yes, it is true that there were batches that gave more adverse reactions. Those are the batches that actually had the amount of spike proteins that they intended all the vaccines to have. Fortunately for you, they were in such a hurry to get this crap out and get their money that they rushed production so that many areas got weak vaccines. Which means any protection you got against Covid was just what you would have had anyway and you’re lucky you didn’t get actual full strength vaccines. Vaccines are a fraud. The average age of death was above the average age of life expectancy. They knew that Covid actually wasn’t very dangerous and that they had purposely exaggerated the deaths to scare people, so why bother actually manufacturing real vaccines when they knew they could just give you saline and you weren’t going to get very sick anyway. And they also knew that if they gave you the real thing that the adverse reactions were going to be astronomical. So many of the vaccines were nothing(lucky for those people) and the ones that were real caused what I saw with 1 in 6 injured. Me and my girlfriend never got vaccinated and never got Covid. We just took vitamin D. Luckily for many Americans, big pharma are such crooks that they just cheated and sold vials of nothing in many areas. They knew that people really didn’t need the vaccines for Covid and that the more real ones they made would just up the chance that the danger of them wouldn’t be able to be hidden. So why take the risk of getting their poison exposed when they could just give many people nothing and it wouldn’t matter and they maximize profits.
I have talked to over two dozen vaccine injured people. Not one of them even knew what the VAERS system was. Not one of them had their doctor mention the VAERS system, even when they told their doctor they were sure their recent vaccine caused their injury One coworker asked me about his wife’s symptoms. I told him right there to do a search on “myocarditis“. He was stunned because she had virtually every symptom! And she had recently received a Covid vaccine. He printed out the description which was from the Mayo Clinic. He took it with him to his wife’s doctor appointment and he just dismissed their concerns and told them there was no way it had anything to do with the vaccine, despite myocarditis being a known side effect and her having every symptom. She then had three tests done by a cardiologist, who then said he had no idea what she was suffering from. Again, when she showed him the list of symptoms that she had and suggested it might be from the vaccine, he also completely dismissed it. So here we had an obvious case of vaccine caused myocarditis and neither doctor reported it into the VAERS system, and neither doctor even told them that there was a VAERS system. And this is how you end up with a vaccine perceived as safe when there is almost zero reporting of any side effects into the VAERS system.
A cardiologist can't diagnose myocarditis but you can?
AND based on your superior intellect decide that she definitely has vaccine induced myocarditis even though the GD cardiologist didn't find myocarditis at all?
My, you are a special snowflake.
So now instead of looking for what is causing her symptoms, they've written her off as a nut.
Because she's relying on the internet instead of trying to hear other possibilities.
She couldn’t hear any possibilities because they didn’t give her any. They just gaslighted her and brushed her off. Told her they didn’t know and sent her home. Amazing that they couldn’t tell her what she had but they could most definitely tell her what she couldn’t have. it couldn’t be vaccine related despite myocarditis being on the list of adverse effects, and despite her having virtually every symptom and no test disputing that possibility. Our medical system is corrupt and ran by big pharma. Just like our media that gets 75% of ad revenue from big pharma. The same media that purposely exaggerated the danger of Covid, turned every flu death into a Covid death, hid the origin, hid vaccine side effects, lied about vaccines stopping transmission, lied about lockdowns, lied about masks working. Big pharma is literally one of the most corrupt and evil entities on the planet!
Drawing a parallel between RCT's for a parachute and a vaccine is clever, but neither scientific or skeptical.
Q: Have you read the (thoroughly debunked and retracted) 1998 Lancet article?
A: (my understanding) The 13 authors of the article were investigating a correlation (hardly a "causility" with only 12 participants) between vaccine -> enterocolitis -> autism, and suggested that more research was needed.
Parachute RCT = satire. Vaccine RCT = not satire. 1998 Lancet article with 13 authors = 1 more author than study participants and way more research needed for even that article to make those conclusions or draw those correlations, but has created decades of people citing that article as the reason for not vaccinating rather than following up. Interesting and sad, no?
I am genuinely interested to hear from someone such as yourself as to the variety of ingredients in many vaccines ; and just precisely how these substances ( including to the best of my understanding based upon the CDC website ) polysorbate 80 , kidney cells , various bovine serums, aluminium ( which I believe is an adjunct activator for immune response ) lipids , egg albumen , human fetal cells, inactivate Sv40 , and so on , are condusive to health generally . Frankly , and aside from the statistical psycho-analysis comparing vaccine scepticism and what appears to be the medical virology profession . I'm asking for a chemical analysis . We know why protein is beneficial. And oxygen . And h2o .
We have representatives of transnational organized crime running our country (why doesn’t everyone know this by now?), and their intentions don’t align with our national interests, so it’s exactly what many of us expected.
The key to all vaccine, and similar, studies is "showing how vaccines prevent disease and death". For such a study to work, vaccine injuries need to be identified and tracked. While correlation is not causation, it's not sufficient to say, "We don't know why autism is appearing at the same time as vaccines, but since it's not happening to everyone it's not vaccines". The "Science says vaccines are safe" baseline assumption has to suppress reporting of vaccine injuries; before more corrupt motives are even considered.
We need more nuanced, less manipulative, science and medical communication. Absolutes like "parachutes are safe", to extend the analogy, don't help. We'd be better off saying "Vaccines may harm your child, but they are more likely to help them." because that's true. Then we can collect the data to do the studies to show it's a 99:1 benefit, so people don't assume it's 60:40 and not get their kid vaccinated.
I came into this article expecting a study of packed parachutes and potential parachute failure.
What I got instead was an insulting homily that I should just trust the easily bribed and often arrogant doctors/researchers because "SHUT UP! PARACHUTES ARE GOOD, SO VACCINES ARE GOOD BECAUSE I'M COMPARING THEM."
Also, this article ignores that there's a LOT of research beyond that one study, including preliminary examinations of the mandatory vaccine schedule total vaccine number growing in direct correlation with autism rates, and leukemia in children growing in conjunction with more vaccines for children (which is thought to be related to formaldehyde in vaccines by some).
Ye goddesses. Here, In ten years, in a state with 4 million people and around 5% kids unvaxxed, ONE person died, unvaccinated, from a disease on the vaccination schedule... and you're telling me a RCT is unethical because one person might die? Versus all the side effects they're not getting... Guillaume-Barre etc... Unvaccinated kids are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the doctors, than from a vaccine preventable disease!
I'm fully vaccinated myself, but my father died, from anaphylaxis, to a medication given in hospital, so I know all medication has side effects, up to and including death. As a parent, I would look at those odds and think a RCT was perfectly safe, and that not vaccinating my child was perfectly safe. (Providing you told participants what arm they were in at the end, so the non vaxxed could then get vaccinated - assuming that was the choice)
Hi Steven, your article was like a deja vu moment when I was reading and watching the excoriatingly ludicrous deception being rolled out across the world in 2020
There is no more daunting experience than presenting scientific data in a conference. You are there to demonstrate what you discovered, in front of well-read and trained colleagues who want to poke holes in your nonsense. Talking to deniers is a much nicer experience.
OK fine. I am not a vaccine skeptic, but with anything very new, like the mRNA 'vaccine', caution is warranted until enough time has passed to be sure of safety profiles.
Also, with regards to your RCT argument, it's only 'unethical' to do them with vaccines BECAUSE you assume they safe and effective already (not an unwarranted argument given a century or two of experience with vaccination generally) but your argument is kind of circular.
There's probably also several other types of fallacy too, like false comparison/binary limitation.
The strawman of anti vaxxers going off of that one study is also disingenuous too, as there's more concerns beyond that single study now, and you should know that.
Ultimately, I thought there would be something of substance here.
Instead, I got my intelligence insulted by a "SHUT UP AND TRUST US DAMNIT! WHY DON'T YOU TRUST US?!?!??!?!?!?!"
And my only thought on the matter is: Stop telling us we're stupid for demanding proof that isn't "TRUST US!!!!!".
In my opinion the question isn't whether the vaccines in general prevent illness, but whether there are undisclosed/unadressed risks associated with those vaccines, and therefore whether the risk/reward calculation makes sense. For example, the flu vaccine's effectiveness in elderly populations (40ish percent) is roughly similar to placebo (35%) levels. But it also temporarily puts them at higher risk to other diseases and one of a few vaccines still using a mercury-based preservative, which may offer additional risks. In light of that, is it still worth it? could we be harming our elderly populations? is there any way to improve the vaccine? etc.
I guess I am a vaccine skeptic, not an anti-vaxxer per se, but whatever.
Thank you for this. I've linked to your post in an update of my article on vaccination:
https://drmick.substack.com/p/vaccination
At my Federal job, nearly 1 in 6 coworkers suffered an injury from their vaccine. Tinnitus, blood clots, numb hands , severe joint pain, anaphylaxis, mast cell activation syndrome, myocarditis etc. I have spoken to over 2 dozen vaccine injured people and not one of them knew what VAERS is, and not one of them had their doctor mention it to them. And that is how you get data that mRNA vaccines are safe. You simply don’t report adverse events.
Val, if 1 in 6 close associates suffered harm, you might be seeing a “cluster”. They happen. But other people might know 0 associates out of a larger pool of acquaintances who suffered harm. I have had 2 doses and 4 boosters of Moderna and Pfizer and had a mild COVID infection once when the Omega variant was first circulating. I have tinnitus but had it before the pandemic too. I don’t know anyone who has had serious symptoms caused by being vaxxed. If people with my anecdotal experience are far more numerous than people with yours, what does that say? And I participated in VAERS fwiw.
Yes, it is true that there were batches that gave more adverse reactions. Those are the batches that actually had the amount of spike proteins that they intended all the vaccines to have. Fortunately for you, they were in such a hurry to get this crap out and get their money that they rushed production so that many areas got weak vaccines. Which means any protection you got against Covid was just what you would have had anyway and you’re lucky you didn’t get actual full strength vaccines. Vaccines are a fraud. The average age of death was above the average age of life expectancy. They knew that Covid actually wasn’t very dangerous and that they had purposely exaggerated the deaths to scare people, so why bother actually manufacturing real vaccines when they knew they could just give you saline and you weren’t going to get very sick anyway. And they also knew that if they gave you the real thing that the adverse reactions were going to be astronomical. So many of the vaccines were nothing(lucky for those people) and the ones that were real caused what I saw with 1 in 6 injured. Me and my girlfriend never got vaccinated and never got Covid. We just took vitamin D. Luckily for many Americans, big pharma are such crooks that they just cheated and sold vials of nothing in many areas. They knew that people really didn’t need the vaccines for Covid and that the more real ones they made would just up the chance that the danger of them wouldn’t be able to be hidden. So why take the risk of getting their poison exposed when they could just give many people nothing and it wouldn’t matter and they maximize profits.
So none of your coworkers went to the doctor for these injuries?
The doctor would report the injury.
And strangely enough, none of your coworkers reported to OSHA a rash of injuries.
Tell me -- how many of these "coworkers" are in your mind?
I have talked to over two dozen vaccine injured people. Not one of them even knew what the VAERS system was. Not one of them had their doctor mention the VAERS system, even when they told their doctor they were sure their recent vaccine caused their injury One coworker asked me about his wife’s symptoms. I told him right there to do a search on “myocarditis“. He was stunned because she had virtually every symptom! And she had recently received a Covid vaccine. He printed out the description which was from the Mayo Clinic. He took it with him to his wife’s doctor appointment and he just dismissed their concerns and told them there was no way it had anything to do with the vaccine, despite myocarditis being a known side effect and her having every symptom. She then had three tests done by a cardiologist, who then said he had no idea what she was suffering from. Again, when she showed him the list of symptoms that she had and suggested it might be from the vaccine, he also completely dismissed it. So here we had an obvious case of vaccine caused myocarditis and neither doctor reported it into the VAERS system, and neither doctor even told them that there was a VAERS system. And this is how you end up with a vaccine perceived as safe when there is almost zero reporting of any side effects into the VAERS system.
A cardiologist can't diagnose myocarditis but you can?
AND based on your superior intellect decide that she definitely has vaccine induced myocarditis even though the GD cardiologist didn't find myocarditis at all?
My, you are a special snowflake.
So now instead of looking for what is causing her symptoms, they've written her off as a nut.
Because she's relying on the internet instead of trying to hear other possibilities.
Good job!
She couldn’t hear any possibilities because they didn’t give her any. They just gaslighted her and brushed her off. Told her they didn’t know and sent her home. Amazing that they couldn’t tell her what she had but they could most definitely tell her what she couldn’t have. it couldn’t be vaccine related despite myocarditis being on the list of adverse effects, and despite her having virtually every symptom and no test disputing that possibility. Our medical system is corrupt and ran by big pharma. Just like our media that gets 75% of ad revenue from big pharma. The same media that purposely exaggerated the danger of Covid, turned every flu death into a Covid death, hid the origin, hid vaccine side effects, lied about vaccines stopping transmission, lied about lockdowns, lied about masks working. Big pharma is literally one of the most corrupt and evil entities on the planet!
Bridget you’re wasting your breath.
Look at other “theories” Val promotes on his Substack. Def a tinfoil headwear kinda guy
🥱
Thank you Val for telling the brutal truth
From the vaccine or with the vaccine?
Well said Val - this article is written on artifice
Drawing a parallel between RCT's for a parachute and a vaccine is clever, but neither scientific or skeptical.
Q: Have you read the (thoroughly debunked and retracted) 1998 Lancet article?
A: (my understanding) The 13 authors of the article were investigating a correlation (hardly a "causility" with only 12 participants) between vaccine -> enterocolitis -> autism, and suggested that more research was needed.
Parachute RCT = satire. Vaccine RCT = not satire. 1998 Lancet article with 13 authors = 1 more author than study participants and way more research needed for even that article to make those conclusions or draw those correlations, but has created decades of people citing that article as the reason for not vaccinating rather than following up. Interesting and sad, no?
Well gravity is just a theory.
I am genuinely interested to hear from someone such as yourself as to the variety of ingredients in many vaccines ; and just precisely how these substances ( including to the best of my understanding based upon the CDC website ) polysorbate 80 , kidney cells , various bovine serums, aluminium ( which I believe is an adjunct activator for immune response ) lipids , egg albumen , human fetal cells, inactivate Sv40 , and so on , are condusive to health generally . Frankly , and aside from the statistical psycho-analysis comparing vaccine scepticism and what appears to be the medical virology profession . I'm asking for a chemical analysis . We know why protein is beneficial. And oxygen . And h2o .
Oxygen is poisonous
Steven, this is no longer true.
Antivaxxers are giving us our trials.
Granted, the trials won't be random but we do have a large group of control subjects.
when I wrote this, I couldn't imagine that RFK Jr. would be appointed the Secretary of Health and Human Services for the U.S. But here we are.
We have representatives of transnational organized crime running our country (why doesn’t everyone know this by now?), and their intentions don’t align with our national interests, so it’s exactly what many of us expected.
Well said Jos
The key to all vaccine, and similar, studies is "showing how vaccines prevent disease and death". For such a study to work, vaccine injuries need to be identified and tracked. While correlation is not causation, it's not sufficient to say, "We don't know why autism is appearing at the same time as vaccines, but since it's not happening to everyone it's not vaccines". The "Science says vaccines are safe" baseline assumption has to suppress reporting of vaccine injuries; before more corrupt motives are even considered.
We need more nuanced, less manipulative, science and medical communication. Absolutes like "parachutes are safe", to extend the analogy, don't help. We'd be better off saying "Vaccines may harm your child, but they are more likely to help them." because that's true. Then we can collect the data to do the studies to show it's a 99:1 benefit, so people don't assume it's 60:40 and not get their kid vaccinated.
Group A handed professional picked parachutes. Group B handed 20 ft tall pogo sticks. On long spring inside.
I don't believe you.
I came into this article expecting a study of packed parachutes and potential parachute failure.
What I got instead was an insulting homily that I should just trust the easily bribed and often arrogant doctors/researchers because "SHUT UP! PARACHUTES ARE GOOD, SO VACCINES ARE GOOD BECAUSE I'M COMPARING THEM."
Also, this article ignores that there's a LOT of research beyond that one study, including preliminary examinations of the mandatory vaccine schedule total vaccine number growing in direct correlation with autism rates, and leukemia in children growing in conjunction with more vaccines for children (which is thought to be related to formaldehyde in vaccines by some).
There's also more issues being tracked too.
Which shouldn't be ignored by lies of omission.
Thank you Herman for stating the truth - a breath of fresh air
Neither do I Martin
Here is some history on the polio vaccine trials https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1114166/
Also you might look in to the history of pellagra and the studies that discovered the cause and why Cheetos have enriched cornmeal.
Ye goddesses. Here, In ten years, in a state with 4 million people and around 5% kids unvaxxed, ONE person died, unvaccinated, from a disease on the vaccination schedule... and you're telling me a RCT is unethical because one person might die? Versus all the side effects they're not getting... Guillaume-Barre etc... Unvaccinated kids are more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the doctors, than from a vaccine preventable disease!
I'm fully vaccinated myself, but my father died, from anaphylaxis, to a medication given in hospital, so I know all medication has side effects, up to and including death. As a parent, I would look at those odds and think a RCT was perfectly safe, and that not vaccinating my child was perfectly safe. (Providing you told participants what arm they were in at the end, so the non vaxxed could then get vaccinated - assuming that was the choice)
Hi Steven, your article was like a deja vu moment when I was reading and watching the excoriatingly ludicrous deception being rolled out across the world in 2020
There is no more daunting experience than presenting scientific data in a conference. You are there to demonstrate what you discovered, in front of well-read and trained colleagues who want to poke holes in your nonsense. Talking to deniers is a much nicer experience.
OK fine. I am not a vaccine skeptic, but with anything very new, like the mRNA 'vaccine', caution is warranted until enough time has passed to be sure of safety profiles.
Also, with regards to your RCT argument, it's only 'unethical' to do them with vaccines BECAUSE you assume they safe and effective already (not an unwarranted argument given a century or two of experience with vaccination generally) but your argument is kind of circular.
Appeal to intelligence fallacy.
There's probably also several other types of fallacy too, like false comparison/binary limitation.
The strawman of anti vaxxers going off of that one study is also disingenuous too, as there's more concerns beyond that single study now, and you should know that.
Ultimately, I thought there would be something of substance here.
Instead, I got my intelligence insulted by a "SHUT UP AND TRUST US DAMNIT! WHY DON'T YOU TRUST US?!?!??!?!?!?!"
And my only thought on the matter is: Stop telling us we're stupid for demanding proof that isn't "TRUST US!!!!!".
In my opinion the question isn't whether the vaccines in general prevent illness, but whether there are undisclosed/unadressed risks associated with those vaccines, and therefore whether the risk/reward calculation makes sense. For example, the flu vaccine's effectiveness in elderly populations (40ish percent) is roughly similar to placebo (35%) levels. But it also temporarily puts them at higher risk to other diseases and one of a few vaccines still using a mercury-based preservative, which may offer additional risks. In light of that, is it still worth it? could we be harming our elderly populations? is there any way to improve the vaccine? etc.
I guess I am a vaccine skeptic, not an anti-vaxxer per se, but whatever.
There's lots of money in getting a vaccine to be mandatory for millions of people.
Some people care about money more than harming other people.